tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post4863661497539055217..comments2023-09-27T01:02:14.338-07:00Comments on BBRD: Muslim Women Marrying Non-Muslim MenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-26850464852416120522010-04-30T13:25:55.351-07:002010-04-30T13:25:55.351-07:00@ emaan -
srry misread ur comment(i thought it me...@ emaan - <br />srry misread ur comment(i thought it meant beauty of Islam to corrupt left and right; srry honest mistake)<br /><br />movies are awesome; faster and more pleasing to the eyes then books<br /><br />i read other stuff too but not for entertainment; for knowledge, like biographies, history etc<br /><br />lol it was more shocking then fun wasn't it lolCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-49588704375506852262010-04-30T07:34:46.208-07:002010-04-30T07:34:46.208-07:00@Captain When did I blame the failure of humans on...@Captain When did I blame the failure of humans on Islam? Their failure is on their own exaggerated accord.<br />I am not good with movies. baaaaaaaaah. Quran is good but it doesn't stop us from reading other stuff you know ;P<br />ahahaha ... when i lose myself physically, then it'll be like, "oh, shit." So let's not let that happen either =D<br />and no i wasn't trying to find people online, I'm not even looking for a Muslim, remember =D ... I did it for fun, just to see what happens. MY GOD!Emaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082602668599710659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-91768105447013639692010-04-29T20:05:39.203-07:002010-04-29T20:05:39.203-07:00@ emaan - don't blame the failure of humans on...@ emaan - don't blame the failure of humans on Islam lol<br />the only one i read is the Quran; it's the only one i need to read lol. For entertainment i watch movies.<br /><br />lol not losing yourself physically but mentally.<br /><br />lol finding good people online? good luck lolCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-5073013813330433752010-04-29T13:22:11.533-07:002010-04-29T13:22:11.533-07:00@captain yeah .. the beauty of Islam that is being...@captain yeah .. the beauty of Islam that is being corrupted left right and center. It's such a shame to read the news everyday about the non-Muslim not being treated well in Muslim countries.<br />I let it come to me, and meanwhile I read a book too :D ... which one are you reading? I want to order one of Asra Nomani's books. <br />And no I don't get lost. I'm freaking 25 you know! I have to search. <br />It was such a beautiful day today, all warm and sunny. And now it's thunder and rain :( I had plans for Saturday :(<br />oooooooo I tried online dating. On Muslim dating sites. What a bunch of hypocrites and horny people!Emaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082602668599710659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-35306770673632846782010-04-28T16:01:37.061-07:002010-04-28T16:01:37.061-07:00@emaan- Islam is freedom for every minority too
n ...@emaan- Islam is freedom for every minority too<br />n that is what pakistan was supposed to represent; the beauty of Islam. But corruption took over the nation b4 the law even got established. n sometimes yaar you just have to wait lol, trust me it will come to you when it has to. Until then read a book; lmao just kidding lol. But if your impatient like me then search but just don't lose yourself in the process =)Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-10584800001551379002010-04-25T15:38:54.769-07:002010-04-25T15:38:54.769-07:00@Anonymous It's so weird that the strangest re...@Anonymous It's so weird that the strangest responses are from anonymous people. Anyways. Wake me up from my denial when a mosque refuses a man who wants to marry a non-Muslim. Because according to the prevalent criteria by which a woman is denied the right, a man should be too, and the law should be as strict about it as well. Oh wait, we aren't out of patriarchy yet, and no person in power or control says he's wrong. Bollocks!<br /><br />@Captain as much as I've read, Pakistan was supposed to mean freedom from any minority rights abuse. Pakistan ka matlab kya, La illaha ... came way later.. And now we're just a bunch of under-educated, culture-twisted, supersticious patriarchs. And yea, I'm waiting. But i'm not gonna sit and do nothin you know. That is something like "i will do dua, dawa is too bitter and all chemicals"Emaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082602668599710659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-48096544204272927902010-04-24T13:07:55.430-07:002010-04-24T13:07:55.430-07:00@ emaan - if you having any questions or doubts; t...@ emaan - if you having any questions or doubts; then read the quran (in translation); it is the word of God and has everything you need to know in it<br />also im here for ur questions lol so just hit me with every doubt u have :DCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-60865360203411183982010-04-24T13:05:37.664-07:002010-04-24T13:05:37.664-07:00@ mahboob - u sound like an atheist and i really s...@ mahboob - u sound like an atheist and i really see a lot of flaws within ur statement<br />learn about islam through the quran ; u'll know what i mean by the above statement thenCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-84548931148016039102010-04-24T13:02:46.577-07:002010-04-24T13:02:46.577-07:00@ the real slim shady - yes it was
see islam respe...@ the real slim shady - yes it was<br />see islam respects other religions and ensures them safety; thats y jinnah proposed Pakistan as a nation for the muslims of south asia and it's minoritiesCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-30212317068590475242010-04-24T13:00:15.792-07:002010-04-24T13:00:15.792-07:00@ emaan - don't look for them; let them find u...@ emaan - don't look for them; let them find u.<br />if it's in ur destiny then it will happen. And remember this world isn't our permanent destination so even if you don't then that doesn't mean it's going to stay like that forever.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-89698958053822740602010-04-23T22:01:16.390-07:002010-04-23T22:01:16.390-07:00they? see thats where the problem lies, all the in...they? see thats where the problem lies, all the information u need is in the Quran and Ahadith , its all there , now its up to a person to see it , the problem with us is that we don't normally look for the truth but rather a loop hole to try to satisfy our own beliefs and needs whatever they are if they are against the rules of Quran and sunnah . and a few christian men? i belief there is a couple billion christians in the world and most are catholic and most do belief that Jesus is the son of god and saviour of man kind , so ya may be a few twisted thing long long ago in the begining of the church but don't people have their own brains? everyone is given the ability to think for them selves, and abt the NYC girrl is just an example of women marrying outside islam , there are hundreds of others , see the truth is women are week , mostly get married cause they don;'t wanna be alone and its hard to find a guy to begin with for most muslims or so they think , it takes a very very strongly motivated person to deny the worldy things for the sake of ALLAH , i do belief its ok in certain circumstances to marry outside of islam just like in certain circumstances its ok to eat PIg , but seriously how many do that. ALLAH knows better what anyone does . The rules are there in the Quran and Ahadith and it don't matter a bit what u and i think .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-26412217757285721412010-04-23T13:00:38.455-07:002010-04-23T13:00:38.455-07:00There are too many anonymous people. Be brave! :D ...There are too many anonymous people. Be brave! :D Anyhow, here are my responses, you know which one is for you :D<br /><br />@Anonymous1 Thanks for your post. But I don't really see the relevance. Do you mean I am twisting religion to suit my taste? <br />As for the NYC girl. What she does is her business, it isn't hurting me, only herself. I don't support lies, one should come out clean. At least be true to yourself. But if life is just a bunch of jokes, as it sounds like for this girl, yeah ... what can I say then? <br /><br />@da-real-slim-shady I second that! <br /><br />@mahboob Thanks for the appreciation. What you state is really a theory that very much exists. I do feel that the meaning of religion has largely been contorted, I guess we need to get back into semantics and linguistics. But personally I don't dwell on the no-God side. I think there definitely is a Creator. My only problem is how we have made Him a part of our life. I have monstrous doubts about if this is what God wanted by creating humanity. We are so off-track, we don't even know ... hahahaha<br /><br />@Anonymous2 I agree. Mothers teach their children. But the what they should teach is often a guideline handed over to the woman. But in cases of marrying within faith, men usually don't have to worry about that (and of course this is largely the case). Children turn out to be whatever they wish, you can only teach so far. So blaming interfaith marriage for twisted kids is a farce. Twisted kids and come out of anywhere. It depends on many factors.<br /><br />@Anonymous3 I don't think mahboob asked for any additions in Islam, he's on a completely different frame of thought. Shirk comes only if you believe in God first. <br />Christianity isn't over-evaluated, it is simply a result of the selfish wants of a few men. Islam, on the other hand is evaluated to the extent that I feel they are holding information in fear of losing power.Emaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082602668599710659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-55755814055505833772010-04-23T11:27:53.896-07:002010-04-23T11:27:53.896-07:00sorry Mehboob but you are so wrong . Religion of I...sorry Mehboob but you are so wrong . Religion of Islam was completed 15 hundred yrs ago , now watever addition any one makes into it to fit and fullfill their own desires in the name of evolution or what ever is a sin as big as Shirq.look at what's happened to christianity , the religion has been evaluated so much that now its just come down to one thing , Believe in jesus (Hazrat Issa ) has ur saviour and son of god and all ur deeds are forgiven , give me a break .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-41702210749383052542010-04-23T10:32:15.425-07:002010-04-23T10:32:15.425-07:00As a mom I find that I am the one responsible for ...As a mom I find that I am the one responsible for teaching children whatever I want about religion (my hubby and I are different sects). Similarly it was my mother who took decisions about my religious education. I see that happening everywhere around me, so I have always had my reservations about assuming that children WILL follow their father's religion. Finally though, I haven't ended up becoming what I should have according to my upbringing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-53540307159162646172010-04-23T08:15:01.904-07:002010-04-23T08:15:01.904-07:00like any other invention religion too,is an invent...like any other invention religion too,is an invention by the human to meet his/her desire to face the unknown.it has evolved over the ages and is still evolving. it is time people start living their lives by human right convention and forget religion.<br />marriage is a contract between two humans they should have the right to decide the matter without any interference what so ever.<br />hats off to the brave girl.mahboobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14689962071330375382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-89287519760569484992010-04-23T07:54:37.608-07:002010-04-23T07:54:37.608-07:00pakistan is an islamic state!!!!!!! SINCE WHEN????...pakistan is an islamic state!!!!!!! SINCE WHEN????? <br />oH! sorry I guess it is. But Islam was not to be the state religion.The Procrastinator!https://www.blogger.com/profile/08159859621764733220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-12879591089211071972010-04-22T17:13:16.741-07:002010-04-22T17:13:16.741-07:00very nice debate u guys have going on i must say ,...very nice debate u guys have going on i must say , very knowledgable, I know this girl from NYC . Her parents came from pakistan and all the sisters were born here , parents lived away for work and left them to live in in an apartment alone , long story short the children as expected merged into the society they were brought up in , they had boyfriends , partying , drinking blah blah and one of them recently married a hindu guy , actually an Athiest whose parents are hindus and they told her parents afterwards and pulled up a drama muslim wedding just to fool her family into thinking that she is not only muslim but the guy has even converted , which is a lie cause personally they laugh about it and i've heared the girl saying that she doesn't even believe in God, any God, like her husband . You see People manipulate things like that like captain said we have hipocrits that are very dangerous to us and to the religion . I think in the end a person knows and can find the answers if they wanted to . The important thing is most of the time when people don't find the answer they are looking for they start to manipulate the system and or religion in order to satisfy only themselves like GHALIB said " Hum ko maloom hai jannat ki haqeeqat laikin , dil kai behlanay ko ghalib khayal acha hai , i live in california , i cannot tell u how many muslims in America sell Alcohol or are affiliated with a business that deals with Alcohol and they all are proud muslims now if you tell them about a hadith thats goes something like this " sharab pina pilana lana lejana sharab se har tarhan ka talluq haram hai" but yet every single person that i meet will some how convince u that they are not doing any thing wrong or its not their business or they just work at the store blah blah so u see we muslims are the problem and not the religion . Religion is perfect and complete . You just have to be honest when you follow it and if you do end up doing some thing wrong then instead of trying to twist the system or manipulating just admit that what you are doing is wrong and you are to blame and not the religion or some one else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-82475812051176696442010-04-22T05:05:34.934-07:002010-04-22T05:05:34.934-07:00@Anonymous Sorry, but I have to disagree with you....@Anonymous Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. Hope without expectation is the answer. It may have sounded like I am pinning hopes on long term fruitfulness of my expectations (conversion of my family), but that in fact is not the case. It was just to say, if somebody has to come to it, they are most welcome. But I am nobody to force them into it. Expectation put pressure on loved ones. This pressure does good to nobody.<br />But thank you for making this judgment for me that I am not open-minded. No matter how moderate a Muslim man maybe, his expectations from his wife are nothing less that that of a non-moderate Muslim man (not meaning conservative, but culturally we are conditioned in certain ways, and men of our culture seem to have an unconscious affirmation ticking 24/7 that they have absolute authority over their wives.)<br /><br />@Captain kaisi batein ker rahay hain. astaghfirullah ... lol .. i just had to say that. Anyways. Perhaps there are nice "pure" Pakistani guys around you. Unfortunately i've had an entirely different experience and exposure. I'll say it again. Cultural conditioning of our men and women is questionable in my eyes.Emaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082602668599710659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-52449258954310972682010-04-22T00:36:35.830-07:002010-04-22T00:36:35.830-07:00@ emaan
there are plenty out there; ive seen some ...@ emaan<br />there are plenty out there; ive seen some of the most puriest pakistani muslims here in nyc! which is really a pleasure to see since almost everything in nyc contradicts our religious view.<br />and also seen alot of them in pakistan too<br />kya pata koi tumhare aas paas hi ho ;) lolCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-90249668877238312252010-04-22T00:07:55.732-07:002010-04-22T00:07:55.732-07:00Dear Emaan,
Thank you for the response. As per you...Dear Emaan,<br />Thank you for the response. As per your response, you will teach your children (of this mixed marriage) all about Islam and hope that they (if they accept it as the true religion) will become Muslims and you hope that eventually your husband will also accept Islam. If you are serious about this inter-faith marriage, I would advise you to discard notions of true and false faiths - your relationship with god is a personal one and one religion is not superior to the other. Also discard the notion of non-believers - every one believes in some pathway to God. So question your motives to enter into the inter-faith marriage - if it is to find a husband who is honorable and good as a human being - accept him for what he is without any long term hope of converting him and your kids. <br />Seriously you are not open-minded enough to enter into an inter-faith marriage. Islam, very rightly, is important to you and from your article and response I can assume that you are looking for a moderate muslim - one who shares your spiritual outlook. All the best on your quest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-7092341801054754562010-04-21T17:20:57.450-07:002010-04-21T17:20:57.450-07:00@ Anonymous: everything in our life revolves aroun...@ Anonymous: everything in our life revolves around compromises. It isn't always a bad thing, and we should embrace it. One compromise is to agree to disagree. <br />"I do however empathise with you because as a modern educated woman you will find it difficult to deal with the issues of polygamy, divorce and custody rights that condemn a muslim woman to a second class status."<br />As a country philosophy, yes. Under Islam, no. I empathize with you to believe (if you do) that under Islam a modern woman should feel a second class citizen. It just a bunch of nonsense chauvinism and patriarchy has taught us.<br />As for kids. I truly believe that a fitri Muslim is not doing anybody any favor for being on this earth. Mixed kids have a big chance of being smarter, more tolerant, and more investigative about religion. It all depends on the parents. Responsibility is the key to a successful marriage. You cant jump in it with hormonal outbursts. I will teach my children everything about Islam. And if it is the true religion, it will attract them regardless. And perhaps my husband too over the years. If my kids make a conscious decision about being Muslims, that's much more appreciable. <br /><br />@skunk yea ... maybe camping in the woods under pure nature would calm these mullahs down a bit.<br />"what right does the freakin state and society have even in case of a marriage not permitted by Islam to intervene and stop people?"<br />- as captain said.<br /><br />@captain you never know what you may end up finding. but not searching just because it's so difficult is like giving up, and Islam doesn't like that now, does it? :D ... <br />on a separate note ... Quran says to men and women to marry chaste people. considering our society .. do you how difficult it is to even find a suitable chaste muslim fellow? lolEmaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082602668599710659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-10038432902667828442010-04-21T16:51:55.871-07:002010-04-21T16:51:55.871-07:00"as a modern educated woman you will find it ..."as a modern educated woman you will find it difficult to deal with the issues of polygamy, divorce and custody rights that condemn a muslim woman to a second class status."<br /><br />r u talking in terms of Islamic law or just a nation's culture?<br />if u r talking about Islamic law then i highly disagree with you.Captainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-48482710942009674212010-04-21T16:49:24.325-07:002010-04-21T16:49:24.325-07:00"what right does the freakin state and societ..."what right does the freakin state and society have even in case of a marriage not permitted by Islam to intervene and stop people?"<br /><br /><br />^ pakistan is an islamic state; the dilemma begins and ends with thatCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704724616698734154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-39105406506038467652010-04-21T16:36:45.852-07:002010-04-21T16:36:45.852-07:00The whole problem is that what right does the frea...The whole problem is that what right does the freakin state and society have even in case of a marriage not permitted by Islam to intervene and stop people?<br /><br />Islam has made it very clear as to what sins it wants punished in this world and they are defined as hudood. The rest of the sins are between God and man so I think mullas should go and take a hide.Saadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00447863370867724676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8019771243429501315.post-61897739241857144792010-04-20T23:20:16.563-07:002010-04-20T23:20:16.563-07:00Dear Emaan,
You disappoint me. I read the article ...Dear Emaan,<br />You disappoint me. I read the article with interest and admiration only to find it all being dashed to pieces with your conclusion that you would be open to marrying a non-muslim - a chaste Kitabi. Not that Hindus and other people of books that the prophet did not know of during his lifetime are queuing to marry Muslim girls. I am a mother of two daughters and my advice to you and other girls is to marry within the faith. That would be my advice to you as well - because marriage for a woman brings with it a baggage of compromises - you do not want to add one more compromise - that of deciding what religion your children will practice - to the mix. While your thoughts of questioning muslim beliefs is laudable, for practical reasons I would advise you to marry wihtin the faith. I do however empathise with you because as a modern educated woman you will find it difficult to deal with the issues of polygamy, divorce and custody rights that condemn a muslim woman to a second class status.<br />It is a conundrum and I hope you find a happy solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com